30-28 Boise in the 4th qtr....

come on LaTech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I hope the media hard on with boise ends after tonight, win or lose...give me a fricken break....

I agree. Go Louisiana Tech...

(11-06-2009 10:51 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I agree. Go Louisiana Tech...

Get the pretender off the board! Go LA TECH! What the F*** is an LA TECH?

Boise isn't worthy of top 10 billing....

now, TCU in my opinion is a different story....

(11-06-2009 11:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Boise isn't worthy of top 10 billing....

now, TCU in my opinion is a different story....

Bullcrap, lets see any of these pretenders play a BC conference schedule.

no I think TCU is a solid Top 10 team....

ps...a "bc schedule"? I assume you meant BE as in Big East?

Boise plays a BS schedule. Does that count?

you have that right...although they beat the $hit out of Oregon

I thought something smelled that first week of the season...

Bearcats#1, why do you care about Boise? They are in the rearview mirror, rankings-wise.

(11-06-2009 11:13 PM)pitt83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Boise isn't worthy of top 10 billing....

now, TCU in my opinion is a different story....

Bullcrap, lets see any of these pretenders play a BC conference schedule.

Honestly. You seriously believe TCU would not absolutely demolish the majority of the Big East? Maybe not Cincy, but everyone else? Honestly?

You honestly believe this? Alright buddy.

(11-07-2009 03:49 AM)canewton Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:13 PM)pitt83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Boise isn't worthy of top 10 billing....

now, TCU in my opinion is a different story....

Bullcrap, lets see any of these pretenders play a BC conference schedule.

Honestly. You seriously believe TCU would not absolutely demolish the majority of the Big East? Maybe not Cincy, but everyone else? Honestly?

You honestly believe this? Alright buddy.

TCU has a very good team, BUT do I think they would "DEMOLISH" most Big East teams? Nope.
TCU would be for a tough match vs Cincy, WV, Pitt and USF. I think that a healthy UConn would have the defense to also keep it close.

TCU struggled to beat Air Force and ALL those BE teams are better than the Falcons and the best team in my eyes that they have beaten is Clemson by 4 and all those BE teams could play with Clemson.

(11-07-2009 03:49 AM)canewton Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:13 PM)pitt83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Boise isn't worthy of top 10 billing....

now, TCU in my opinion is a different story....

Bullcrap, lets see any of these pretenders play a BC conference schedule.

Honestly. You seriously believe TCU would not absolutely demolish the majority of the Big East? Maybe not Cincy, but everyone else? Honestly?

You honestly believe this? Alright buddy.

What I am saying is, I want BSU to play tougher teams week in week out. Its one thing to get up for one or one game a year but quite different when you play 6-8 tough games a year. BSU plays no one and is rewarded for it.... that is bullcrap. Another reason why we need computers to do all the rankings.

and no I don't believe BSU could 'demolish' the BE accept for Cincy. There are 3 other teams possibly a fourth who are even par with bsu.

(11-07-2009 06:56 AM)pitt83 Wrote:  

(11-07-2009 03:49 AM)canewton Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:13 PM)pitt83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Boise isn't worthy of top 10 billing....

now, TCU in my opinion is a different story....

Bullcrap, lets see any of these pretenders play a BC conference schedule.

Honestly. You seriously believe TCU would not absolutely demolish the majority of the Big East? Maybe not Cincy, but everyone else? Honestly?

You honestly believe this? Alright buddy.

What I am saying is, I want BSU to play tougher teams week in week out. Its one thing to get up for one or one game a year but quite different when you play 6-8 tough games a year. BSU plays no one and is rewarded for it.... that is bullcrap. Another reason why we need computers to do all the rankings.

and no I don't believe BSU could 'demolish' the BE accept for Cincy. There are 3 other teams possibly a fourth who are even par with bsu.

So do they, but they are a relatively new FBS program, and they can't really help which conference they play in.

This game is going to be held against them, while nobody really cares that Florida barely beat Arkansas or Cincy had close calls with Oregon State & Fresno State (who Boise beat soundly).

I personally believe that Boise State would lose 2-3 games this year if they played in the MWC, and maybe more if they were in any AQ conference. But they are playing a perfect hand with the cards they were dealt, and that is all that should matter. I'm willing to bet that after this 'close call', Oregon will leapfrogduck them in the BCS standings, proving that the old notion 'a playoff would cheapen the regular season' is a steaming pile of BS.

Here is a question for the guy who said BSU would demolish the BE.

Would you agree if BSU loses even one game they would drop like a stone in the rankings?

There margin of error is razor thin. This LA Tech game is going to cost them a few spots even tho' they won.

(11-07-2009 07:14 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(11-07-2009 06:56 AM)pitt83 Wrote:  

(11-07-2009 03:49 AM)canewton Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:13 PM)pitt83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2009 11:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Boise isn't worthy of top 10 billing....

now, TCU in my opinion is a different story....

Bullcrap, lets see any of these pretenders play a BC conference schedule.

Honestly. You seriously believe TCU would not absolutely demolish the majority of the Big East? Maybe not Cincy, but everyone else? Honestly?

You honestly believe this? Alright buddy.

What I am saying is, I want BSU to play tougher teams week in week out. Its one thing to get up for one or one game a year but quite different when you play 6-8 tough games a year. BSU plays no one and is rewarded for it.... that is bullcrap. Another reason why we need computers to do all the rankings.

and no I don't believe BSU could 'demolish' the BE accept for Cincy. There are 3 other teams possibly a fourth who are even par with bsu.

So do they, but they are a relatively new FBS program, and they can't really help which conference they play in.

This game is going to be held against them, while nobody really cares that Florida barely beat Arkansas or Cincy had close calls with Oregon State & Fresno State (who Boise beat soundly).

I personally believe that Boise State would lose 2-3 games this year if they played in the MWC, and maybe more if they were in any AQ conference. But they are playing a perfect hand with the cards they were dealt, and that is all that should matter. I'm willing to bet that after this 'close call', Oregon will leapfrogduck them in the BCS standings, proving that the old notion 'a playoff would cheapen the regular season' is a steaming pile of BS.

I agree with you that they probably have atough time scheduling better OCC opponents. But if you play in the WAC and you hope to be taken seriously in NC discussions you must do whatever it takes to play better OCC, even if that means no return trips.

By the way dont come telling me that LATech at 3-6 with wins over Hawaii,NMST and a 1AA is comparable to Oregon State, Arkansas or even Fresno.
Boise has a good team but would probably finish 3rd-4rth in any of the BCS conferences or MWC.

(11-07-2009 07:21 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  By the way dont come telling me that LATech at 3-6 with wins over Hawaii,NMST and a 1AA is comparable to Oregon State, Arkansas or even Fresno.
Boise has a good team but would probably finish 3rd-4rth in any of the BCS conferences or MWC.

That's not the point; the point is a narrow win over an unranked opponent hurts Boise more than anyone else, that's all.

(11-07-2009 07:17 AM)pitt83 Wrote:  Here is a question for the guy who said BSU would demolish the BE.

Would you agree if BSU loses even one game they would drop like a stone in the rankings?

There margin of error is razor thin. This LA Tech game is going to cost them a few spots even tho' they won.

If your'e talking about post 11 (canewton), he was talking about TCU.

(11-07-2009 03:11 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Bearcats#1, why do you care about Boise? They are in the rearview mirror, rankings-wise.

They are behind us BJ but I'm tired of the media pundits mentioning our name with them and TCU like they usually do. Somehow, despite our BCS affiliation we are viewed as "bcs crashers" still and it chaps me.

Granted, we are "new" to bcs stuff but come on....so I was hoping they would lose or at least barely beat a lame team like latech so it will be one less bcs buster we get compared to.......

(11-07-2009 08:25 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-07-2009 03:11 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Bearcats#1, why do you care about Boise? They are in the rearview mirror, rankings-wise.

They are behind us BJ but I'm tired of the media pundits mentioning our name with them and TCU like they usually do. Somehow, despite our BCS affiliation we are viewed as "bcs crashers" still and it chaps me.

Granted, we are "new" to bcs stuff but come on....so I was hoping they would lose or at least barely beat a lame team like latech so it will be one less bcs buster we get compared to.......

The funny thing is, it seems to me like Louisville sometimes got more respect when they were in C-USA than Cincinnati gets now.

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I agree with you that they probably have atough time scheduling better OCC opponents. But if you play in the WAC and you hope to be taken seriously in NC discussions you must do whatever it takes to play better OCC, even if that means no return trips.

By the way dont come telling me that LATech at 3-6 with wins over Hawaii,NMST and a 1AA is comparable to Oregon State, Arkansas or even Fresno.
Boise has a good team but would probably finish 3rd-4rth in any of the BCS conferences or MWC.
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Actually, Boise is willing to play BCS opponents without a return trip and right now, they can't get any BCS team to agree to play them in 2011 - even with ESPN trying to help them broker a deal so that the game can be televised. It's all well and good to state that Boise or any other non-AQ team should have a challenging OOC schedule, but they can't do that unless AQ teams are willing to schedule them. Boise may have crossed the threshold to the point where they're too successful for thier own good. Here is an article discussing Boise's scheduling difficulties - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/ne...&type=lgns

(11-07-2009 08:46 AM)LostInSpace Wrote:  Actually, Boise is willing to play BCS opponents without a return trip and right now, they can't get any BCS team to agree to play them in 2011 - even with ESPN trying to help them broker a deal so that the game can be televised. It's all well and good to state that Boise or any other non-AQ team should have a challenging OOC schedule, but they can't do that unless AQ teams are willing to schedule them. Boise may have crossed the threshold to the point where they're too successful for thier own good. Here is an article discussing Boise's scheduling difficulties - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/ne...&type=lgns

We used to have this problem at UofL but we figured out how to get rid of it.

You hire Steve Kragthorpe.

By the time he gets done with us, we'll be on every team's schedule, as a homecoming opponent.
CJ

I also think people need to lay off Boise State. They are doing the best they can with the hand they have been dealt. Boise State went out a scheduled the only BCS team that would give them a fair deal the last two years, Oregon, and waxed the Ducks both times. They beat Oregon State in the couple of years preceding that series. And surely no one has forgotten what Boise State did to mighty Oklahoma in 2006.

I agree that Boise State may have become too successful for their own good. Now they can't even get teams to give them a one-and-done. Ridiculous. Nor can Boise State simply join another conference as many message board idiots like posting on Rivals and elsewhere. They have to be invited and nobody is interested at this time. Don't forget, also, that WAC teams know Boise State best and always play them close.

(11-07-2009 07:17 AM)pitt83 Wrote:  Here is a question for the guy who said BSU would demolish the BE.

Would you agree if BSU loses even one game they would drop like a stone in the rankings?

There margin of error is razor thin. This LA Tech game is going to cost them a few spots even tho' they won.

Where did I say BSU would demolish the BE?

(11-07-2009 04:16 PM)canewton Wrote:  

(11-07-2009 07:17 AM)pitt83 Wrote:  Here is a question for the guy who said BSU would demolish the BE.

Would you agree if BSU loses even one game they would drop like a stone in the rankings?

There margin of error is razor thin. This LA Tech game is going to cost them a few spots even tho' they won.

Where did I say BSU would demolish the BE?

You said TCU would demolish the majority of Big East teams outside of Cincy and that is also INCORRECT. TCU would be in for a big battle vs Cincy, Pitt, USF and WV , thats half the Big East

I'm going to disagree with you.

(11-07-2009 04:52 PM)canewton Wrote:  I'm going to disagree with you.

and thats fine. But look carefully at TCU's opponents. The have faced THREE teams with current winning records
BYU 6-2
Clemson 5-3
Air Force 5-4

They beat Clemson by 3, Air Force by 4. BYU is the only one they blew away and I think we all know that BYU is overrated. Remember the FSU blow out?

So from those scores there is no indication that TCU would blow`away Pitt,USF, WV nor Cinncinati.